Important Updates on Funding Financial Accounts and Buying Visa Gift Cards Online With Credit Card

Earlier in the week I wrote about a credit union that will sell you $500 Visa gift cards for $3.95 and take a credit card for the transaction.

When you open an account with this credit union you can make an initial deposit charged to a credit card for up to $1500. The credit union confirmed they treat this as a purchase. Any given credit card company may code it differently, but my transaction with a Chase card showed up as a sale and earned points.

Some followups and updates worth sharing:

  • You need to make sure you make yourself eligible to join the credit union. If you aren’t an employee of an eligible federal agency, a resident of Washington DC, etc. don’t say that you are.

  • Anyone can join via a $20 membership in CityDance. But you actually need to join CityDance. You won’t be able to buy gift cards on an ongoing basis if you don’t.

  • All you do is select the CityDance option at the beginning of your joining process when you indicate your eligibility.

  • The default funding amount for your account is $5, which is the minimum to open. You need to change this to at least $25. Then if you select the CityDance option they will debit your account $20 for the membership automatically.

  • But you probably want to fund the full allowable $1500 since my experience and their confirmation is that it’s coded as a purchase.

  • Do not go hog wild on gift card purchases. The credit union is well aware that what they are offering is useful to frequent flyer miles aficionados. They are happy to see the purchases. But the third party they contract with to manage the gift card sales will see large and repeated orders as suspicious. Ordering $10,000 in short order? Not a good idea. Order a thousand or two thousand worth, wait a month, rinse/repeat.

  • Look at the other products the credit union offers — historically they’ve offered attractive rates on CDs, on auto loans, and other products. This isn’t just hypothesis, they’ve said they’re looking for customers who take advantage of a diversity of financial products. We want them to benefit along with us.

This is a small to medium-sized credit union, and we’ve already moved the needle on their total membership base. That’s great, and they seem fine with it, let’s just work with them responsibly because this can be really win-win-win.

About Gary Leff

Gary Leff is one of the foremost experts in the field of miles, points, and frequent business travel - a topic he has covered since 2002. Co-founder of frequent flyer community InsideFlyer.com, emcee of the Freddie Awards, and named one of the "World's Top Travel Experts" by Conde' Nast Traveler (2010-Present) Gary has been a guest on most major news media, profiled in several top print publications, and published broadly on the topic of consumer loyalty. More About Gary »

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  2. If there is one thing we points and miles hoarders are is selfish. We will kill this thing and any great opportunity like Lenny petting his mice.

  3. You’d have to be in a very opportunity poor area to deal with this. I can just go to my local mall and load up no questions asked.

  4. I guess it saves the trip into the CVS/grocery store to buy the cards, and $3.95 is the lowest price I’ve seen. Adds up when you’re ordering several thousand a month.

  5. It’s not like the third party vendor can keep your money if they think you are purchasing too many cards. All they can do is deny the sale. So why not order what you need right now? If I need to spend 5k to meet spend on one card and 10k to meet spend on another card I want to do it today, not spread it out over five months, especially since I only have three months to do it. LOL.

  6. Gain is marginal, thus, make it up with the volume. Not just meet the sign up bonus min.

  7. Hmmm, I don’t see the option to sign up with CityDance in the drop-down menu. Maybe they removed it?

  8. Has anyone been able to assign a pin to these Ag Fed gift cards? They seem like credit-only cards similar to Amex GC. These are good for minimum spend I suppose, but for MS not so good. Especially in light of the recent debit-load only Redbird fiasco.

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    Know about Community Choice Credit Union of Michigan? They are a MeridianLink bank and take visa/mastercard up to 2.5K plus they offer 3 month CD’s. One can donate $25. to Detroit Hist. S. to become a member. I’ve known the good ones for years.

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  11. @brad73 Gary wrote in his previous post that you can call and assign pins to your GCs even though it says it doesn’t come with one in the terms. Definitely don’t buy too much at once in case they remove that pin-adding option…

  12. Actually that “human race is a virus” quote did not come from any scientific journal, but from a pop culture movie. There are plenty of species that, uncontrolled, will overpopulate a habitat to their detriment. The stuff about others “instinctively” controlling their numbers is pretty much wrong.

    But to the point. I don’t MS, but I sometimes read about it. I would be stunned if this “deal” isn’t dead very, very soon. Deals are not killed by those who write about them in blogs. They are killed by the greedy who abuse them, which is what I’m sure is happening right now by the “This won’t last long so I have to max out right away” crowd. Oh well, enjoy your dance membership.

  13. Can I fund more money with credit card after $25 initial? If not, How could ppl order $10K gift card when credit card is only good for initial fund $1500? Thanks

  14. Thanks EY. I bought one $500 GC today as a trial run. AG Fed website is down a lot so I can’t see my balances. Anyone else having this problem?

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  17. Any datapoints on using Citi card to fund the initial $1500? will it be treat as CA?

    Thanks

  18. I have been buying a few cards online every month from Ag Fed since Gary alerted us about this opportunity. I work in D.C. so joining was no problem. I purchased cards earlier this month (November 2015). Today, the site indicates one must go to the branch to buy the Visa gift cards. I entered into an online chat and learned that this is the new policy. 🙁

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