hockeyinsider asks, “Are there enough toilets on the new A350?”
There are 226 passengers in economy-class, assuming all of the seats are occupied. That means there are 4 lavatories for 274 passengers, unless flight attendants allow the 48 premium-economy passengers to use the 4 lavatories designated for the 32 business-class passengers.
By comparison, there are 10 lavatories for the 328 economy-class and comfort-plus passengers in the Boeing 747. That’s 1 lavatory for every 32.8 passengers on the 747 compared to 1 lavatory for every 68.5 passengers on the A350.
I suppose I need to remind folks not to go barefoot or without shoes/slippers into any lavatory once the plane boards.
There are two lavatories at the front of business class and two lavatories at the back of business class. And there are two lavatories in the middle of the economy cabin.
Assuming that premium economy passengers are allowed to use the two lavatories at the back of business class, then there are 4 lavatories for 226 coach passengers or one lavatory per 56.5 passengers in back.
That doesn’t sound like very many, but it’s not something new with this aircraft. Delta has four lavatories for 254 economy passengers on their Boeing 777-200LR. They have four lavatories for 200 economy passengers on their Boeing 767-300ER.
American can be a little bit better on a similar aircraft, 5 lavatories for 232 coach passengers on their Boeing 787-9, or one per 48.4 passengers. But that’s still not a lot. United has 4 lavatories for 204 economy passengers on their Boeing 787-9.
Singapore Airlines A380 Suites Lavatory
I wouldn’t want to walk into a coach lav after flying Detroit – Tokyo, Los Angeles – Auckland, or Los Angeles – Singapore on one of these planes — but Delta’s hardly charting new ground here.
(HT: Dennis L.)
So you are suggesting perhaps that we have regulated lower limits on number of bathrooms per passenger? Because once a customer is on the plane they can’t just get up and leave.
Surely an American cultural wrinkle that only on planes is a lavatory actually referred to as a, well, lavatory. Everywhere else in America descriptors go to great pains to avoid saying what it really is, with euphemisms such as restroom (you rarely rest there), bathroom (unlikely to be able to take a bath), powder-room (for 17th century dandies presumably) and so on.
I much prefer the many and varied down-to-earth British and Australian names for this essential facility. I won’t list the many examples here so as not to upset American sensibilities.
Do you think the seatmap may just have a mistake? Looks like two galleys adjacent to row 55 may actually be lavatories as they have swinging doors on the icons/symbol (as do the rest of the lavs and none of the other galleys).
Answer: no.
is W-C water closet any better? Like its a closet with some water?
or as the french say, double ve-ce
There’s an error here (big surprise). Your post says “And there are two lavatories in the middle of the economy cabin” when clearly the map shows 4 lavs in the middle of the economy cabin.
And I wouldn’t be surprised to see one of those two lavs at the back of the J cabin to be curtained off so it;s accessible to the premium economy cabin, and the other curtained off so it’s a J lav. I’ve seen that on a couple of other airlines (can’t remember which) with similar layouts.
Do they care?
If you look at the two “galleys” in the back by 4 L/R they have doors that swing out. Galleys usually don’t have doors on them so my thought is these are mislabeled. Hopefully an oversight on Delta’s part when this seat map was published.
Ouch.
Bob 1 – Gary 0
when did Gary get back to 0?
CoolHandLuke:
I prefer defecation chamber
I flew on AA flight from GRU-DFW when they launched premium economy, I was sitting on the first row of premium economy basically next to the rear bathrooms for business class and the crew clearly prohibited us of using those lavatories. Even on premium economy we were told to go to the back of the plane to use bathroom which helped with my decision to never fly premium economy again. I just don’t see the value since it is a half baked option at a high price.
Dave +1. Good eye!
@CoolHandLuke:
“Surely an American cultural wrinkle that only on planes is a lavatory actually referred to as a, well, lavatory.”
Are you under the impression that “lavatory” is anything other than another euphemism? It’s a synonym for “wash room”.
Just NEVER, EVER sit down.