Last week $1395 business class roundtrips between New York and Paris. That’s a lot less than most airlines normally charge, but is it a good deal?
John in the comments says it’s not. It’s stupid, even.
That is so expensive lol, for that amount you can buy 3 Economy round trips, what’s the point of having a bigger seat and an hypocrite flight attendant serving you.
People traveling business are so stupid, they could have so much more fun by spending this extra money during their actual days at destination . Especially stupid during a day flight when you don’t care about being able to lie down on a flat seat .
It’s true business seat is convenient to sleep but on New York to Paris you barely have 4/5 hour to sleep between the meals.
And as for a business trip paid by your company, the latter is so stupid to lose so much money for such stupid comfort.
I’ve purchased paid business class mistake fares, like the $33 plus tax Alitalia fare between Toronto and Cyprus with stopovers in Italy. I’ve purchased business class sale fares on British Airways, where a ~ $1600 fare gets reduced by the $400 AARP discount and then you could buy down more of the fare spending British Airways Avios at a promo price.
But I’ve never spent $4000 or $10,000 on an airline ticket. Just like I’ve never spent $500 on a hotel room.
At the same time, I’ve traveled on very expensive flights — in first class on airlines like Etihad, Emirates, Singapore, Cathay Pacific, Qantas, Lufthansa, Thai, Asiana, ANA, British Airways, Air Tahiti Nui, United, American and more. And I’ve stayed at very expensive hotels like Al Maha Desert Resort and the Park Hyatt Maldives. That’s thanks to miles and points.
I’ve always thought I was getting a pretty good deal on the premium experiences, using miles for saver awards and booking deep discount tickets. Of course two years ago when I posted about a $1700 roundtrip first class (not business) fare to Seoul there were people who didn’t think that was a good deal.
What I’ve found is that there are (3) types of people that find their way into miles and points:
- Aviation geeks. They love flying, they love planes, they know all the details of aircraft and get excited by flight.
- Luxury travel aficionados. People who want to get the best experiences possible, and use deals to make that possible or to do it more often than they otherwise could.
- Budget travelers. They live frugally, travel is the point not how you get there. There’s no point in a fancy hotel room because they don’t spend any time in the room.
And these different groups talk past each other, a lot. The budget traveler can’t understand ever ‘wasting money’ on business class even if it’s just a few hundred dollars more (wouldn’t you rather spend the money on a nice meal at your destination? or save the money for an early retirement?). The luxury traveler doesn’t understand the point of paying attention to miles, points, and deals if at the end of all that work the reward is a budget hotel and coach flight.
I once described this as, “There are people who like travel, people who like math games, and people who just like planes.”
There’s no point at outrage over the opinions or advice of others. How could they say that?! Don’t they just realize that… Not everyone you disagree with is evil or stupid. Your position may be perfectly logical for maximizing what you value most.
For me I travel a lot more because I can make that travel comfortable. I’d dread flying long haul economy, but I think nothing of stepping on a 15 hour flight in first class. Maybe that makes me weak, or heretical since travel is indeed wonderful. But I can generate enough miles to do it often in a premium cabin, and I definitely prefer to.
I also enjoy a nice hotel and a nice resort, even if I’m off doing other things. A room isn’t ‘just where I sleep’ it’s also a place where I’m productive (working even on vacation), where I may spend several hours up due to jet lag, and where I can rely on people to get me started comfortably for a day in a new and foreign city.
It’s ok that some people don’t value these things, or don’t value them as much as I do. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t valuable. If you think they’re stupid, as opposed to things not connected to your own values, then I’d submit you are simply failing to understand where other people might be coming from.