CONFIRMED: American’s First Boeing 757 International Lie Flat Business Seat Being Installed Now

All of American’s transatlantic business class flying is supposed to be done with fully lie flat seats. That’s part of their joint venture with British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair. And it’s the message they’ve been sending to their customers.

That was supposed to happen a long time ago. But it’s been significantly delayed and still isn’t being projected for Boeing 777s until the end of next year.

American currently has a variety of different business class seats.

  • Old angled business seats that they’re working to retire from international service.

  • Thompson Vantage seats on Boeing 767 aircraft which are lie flat with all aisle access but extremely narrow. I find them uncomfortable.


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  • Legacy American Boeing 777-300ER reverse herringbone seats with all aisle access that are my favorite, and similar to an earlier generation installed in legacy US Airways A330s.


    Boeing 777-300ER Business Class

  • Forward and backward facing Zodiac seats with all aisle access that are in Boeing 787-8 and some Boeing 777-200 aircraft. These get complaints about rocking (movement when another passenger gets up or down) and dividers in center seats that remain stuck either up or down. American moved away from the supplier due to delays.


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  • B/E Aerospace Super Diamond seats that will be installed in Boeing 787-9, Airbus A350, and some Boeing 777-200 aircraft.


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American also flies some Boeing 757s across the Atlantic and it was reported nearly two years ago that these would get lie flat seats, too.

American Airlines tells me that they are in the process of retrofitting a prototype 757 with lie flat seats. The plane hasn’t yet been assigned to a route, but we should be seeing more details and photos in the coming weeks.

I suggested two years ago that the B/E Aerospace Diamond seat — which is what American uses on its A321T aircraft in business class for New York JFK – Los Angeles and San Francisco — would make the most sense. This is the current United seat as well that’s being replaced by Polaris. It gives them lie flat capability and preserves 2-2 across configuration (meaning that not all seats would have aisle access).

Whatever the actual seat, configuration matters.

  • American has invested a lot in the claim of lie flat seats that all have direct access to the aisle.

  • An overnight flight that requires climbing over another passenger to get up and go to the lavatory, or that allows another passenger to climb over you to do the same is a non-starter for many customers.

However 757s fly on the least premium, thinnest routes for business class demand and airlines may be reluctant to give up the seats or take up extra cabin space to accomplish this.

It will be interesting to see what American does with the 757s, but hopefully we’ll know soon and I’ve asked American to clarify their plans.

About Gary Leff

Gary Leff is one of the foremost experts in the field of miles, points, and frequent business travel - a topic he has covered since 2002. Co-founder of frequent flyer community InsideFlyer.com, emcee of the Freddie Awards, and named one of the "World's Top Travel Experts" by Conde' Nast Traveler (2010-Present) Gary has been a guest on most major news media, profiled in several top print publications, and published broadly on the topic of consumer loyalty. More About Gary »

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Comments

  1. Delta was bragging all about their complete lie flat aircraft.. Then they installed 2-2 lie flat seats on the 757 ..

  2. I hope that they do s better job retrofitting economy than on the 767s (no wifi not everyone has power no ife) But maybe that’s just a dream

  3. Does anyone in the world have all lie-flat business WITH aisle access for every seat on a narrowbody aircraft? Even if someone can name me one, the overwhelming majority of such planes (e.g. Delta 757s, United 757s, British Airways A318, Qatar A319s, American’s own A321Ts) have 2-2 seating. So it seems a bit unfair to be disappointed if AA does the same on their 757s

  4. Yep, I can’t think of a single airline that has 1-1 business class on a 757. No idea why AA would waste the space on such routes.

  5. Please
    Update us when you figure out what route this will be on, it will be a game changer!! I won’t fly the 757 routes because the seats are so bad, so Paris, some London, Dublin in winter, and others are out.

  6. Hey Gary, you mention that United are replacing their B/E Diamond seats with Polaris, but as far as I know they are not doing so on their 757s. I only point this out as the article focuses on the 757, and suggests that AA are moving to a seat that UA are moving away from, though UA are keeping the Diamonds on their 757s as far as I know. Sorry for the pedantry, carry on. 🙂

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