A reader pointed out to me that Wyndham has a new promotion to highlight 20 of their new hotel properties, offering 16,000 points per stay as a bonus on top of the usual points earned. The bonus is valid on up to 3 stays through December 31, no registration required.

That promotion is stackable with Wyndham’s fall promotion (that does require registration) of 5500 bonus points on your second and fourth stays between September 26 and November 3026.

You’re thinking, the 16,000 point bonus applies at only 20 hotels and I’m not headed to Greensboro and really don’t want to stay at the Hawthorne Suites there anyway, right?

But according to the terms and conditions of Wyndham Rewards, no show stays earn points.

If the property requires a credit card for a reservation, the Member is a no-show, and the hotel charges his/her credit card for the first night of the no-show stay, the Member will receive points for such night as if he/she had stayed.

This has always been my experience as well. And some of the hotels on the list are really quite cheap.

I’m seeing the prepaid rate at the Hawthorn Suites by Wyndham Orlando Altamonte Springs for $50.99, a total of $56.60 all-in with taxes.

So if you book 3 stays there — you don’t even have to show up — it will cost $169.80.

And you’ll earn:

  • 48,000 bonus points from the new hotel promotion
  • 5500 bonus points for on the second stay for the fall promotion
  • 1530 points for the cost of the rooms (10 points per dollar on the $51 base rate three times)

That’s 55,030 Wyndham Rewards points earned earned (and doesn’t factor that you will earn miles for your credit card spend).

And Wyndham Rewards points transfer at 2.5 to 1 airline mile (minimum of 8000 Wyndham points to transfer). So you earn 22,000 miles in your choice of airline program (per account, you can repeat this for each of your family members) at a cost of $0.0077 per mile.

Of course you can book free room nights with these points or move them into miles now or whenever you wish later (such as when you know what miles you need to top off an account, or if you need to drop a few miles into an account for ‘partner activity’ as part of a promotion or when there is a bonus for transferring hotel points into miles).

Wyndham’s points transfer partners are:

  • Aeromexico
  • Aeroplan
  • American
  • Amtrak
  • Delta
  • Frontier
  • Southwest
  • US Airways
  • United
  • Air Berlin
  • Czech
  • Saudia
  • China Southern
  • Air China
  • China Eastern
  • Hainan Airlines Fortune Wings Club

That’s an interesting list since it includes some of the more obscure programs that don’t seem to partner with anyone else. Transfers from Wyndham to Hainan Airlines, for instasnce, can be especially useful for upgrades to business class on their Toronto or Seattle to Beijing flights.

I think it’s well worth transferring US Airways miles under the current share miles promotion, and this is about 40% less expensive and applies to a number of airline programs. So a very very good deal.

Register for Wyndham’s fall promotion then book three one-night stays at any of the participating new properties. Book the cheapest rate you can, and the points are supposed to post even though you don’t actually check-in.

Wyndham ran a similar promotion that ended October 6, the Deals We Like blog wrote about it and I’m not sure how I missed it. Hopefully this is a recurring offer for new hotel properties and we can buy miles inexpensively each time as a result.

Thanks, Wyndham!

Update: as far as which property to use for this promotion, Deals We Like emails me that the property in Orlando I suggest above “was canceling reservations for those who did not show up and not charging the credit card.” So another property might work better.

Update 2: The Salt Lake City property is a good one for cheap stays. Also I made a small calculation error in the number of points you receive, I noted that you earn 10 points per dollar spent on the base room rate — and that’s standard for the Wyndham Rewards program — but when you book a Hawthorne Suites property it is only 5 points. So calculate the number of points you want and if you need to jump over a threshold then consider booking a rate that includes 1000 bonus points.

  1. redcat255 said,

    Does the AAA rate work for all of this? I didn’t see anything in the T&C saying otherwise, but I wanted to check…

  2. Dan said,

    Don’t forget that transfers to Southwest count towards Companion Pass.

  3. JL said,

    Would it be possible to transfer the earned points to someone else USairways DM account?

  4. Nate said,

    Having never tried to transfer Wyndham rewards before, can you transfer them into someone else’s Wyndham account?

    Can you do family member transfer?

    Can you transfer rewards into another person’s airline account?

  5. ArizonaGuy said,

    Got my 48,000 points last time for 3 no-show stays. Going big this time with some family member accounts as well. :)

  6. Eugene said,

    According to T&C a no-show does get points, i.e. regular points. Do we know for certain that the promotional 16K will also be awarded?

  7. Edward said,

    Can I use “book now” rates? or does it have to be best available rate?

  8. redcat255 said,

    @ArizonaGuy — How long did it take for promo points to post? I’d love to be able to see one work out before I book stays two and three.

  9. Jack said,

    Can these Wyndham points be transferred to any FF account or only one that matches the Wyndham acct holder name?

  10. Gary said,

    @Eugene apparently they did on the last bonus, and I don’t see why they wouldn’t, although I suppose you’ve suggested something to them to short-circuit us :P Seriously, I don’t think Wyndham distinguishes for points earning whether you show up or not for the reservation.

  11. chiyu said,

    don’t forget the room has to be booked through a link from the email. I didn’t receive one and wyndham replied that they can not resend the email. anyone has any suggestion?

  12. ArizonaGuy said,

    Last time it wasn’t set in stone on posting. I waited about 4 weeks (there’s a thread on FT, others had similar experiences) for the first 16K to post after a stay.

    I waited for the first bonus to post before paying for two more stays. But the second bonus posted the very next day after the stay, and the third bonus posted a week after that stay. So YMMV.

  13. redcat255 said,

    @ArizonaGuy Thanks. I will do the same here. We’ve got until December 31 for the big promo, so it’s worth waiting for me.

  14. Michael said,

    Thanks Gary. I’ll use this to top off my United account as I value the flexibility of having one-way award fares.

  15. JA said,

    I booked one night already. Thanks.

  16. UdiA said,

    Any bonus for new members???

  17. Chas said,

    I take it names / addresses don’t have to match for transfers into airline programs?

    Anyone have any experience with how long the bonus points take to post / how long airline FF transfers take to post?

  18. Hao Tran said,

    Used my Chase Freedom for an extra 5%

  19. redcat255 said,

    @Gary – Are folks getting e-mails that their reservations were canceled without being charged? I booked a room for tonight and it’s past the cancellation deadline. I guess I’m best off just taking a chance?

  20. Eugene said,

    @Gary – I am just imagining a scenario where the Orlando hotel will be fully booked and yet stay empty. It may not be a bad thing for them, but who knows.

  21. PH said,

    It’s a bummer that the Altamonte Springs property has been canceling such reservations. I wonder if prepaid reservations vs. not pre-paid reservations makes any difference to what that property does? In any case, I went in for three nights over the next couple of weeks, and if the hotel does cancel my reservations, I should have time to try again elsewhere.

    What we don’t know here, unfortunately, is whether the property itself has to take the brunt of the cost of the bonus points, or if that cost is borne by the corporate program.

    Note that there are some even cheaper rates available, I booked one, but I’m risking depending on how they calculate the base points of falling just under 55,000 points and thus having some points orphaned.

  22. David said,

    is this targeted?

  23. dealswelike said,

    Here are some answer to the various questions:
    1. The last time this promotion was offered, all rates that earn points earned the 16,000 points, this includes pre-paid rates, AAA, AARP, etc.
    2. Points were posting all over the place. My moms account had her points post within a week or so, where my points still have not posted. Wyndham rewards will not manually post the points until a full 8 weeks have expired since the points from the stay post to the account, which is really annoying.
    3. People did not get an email that there reservation was cancelled, just the points did not post and no credit card charge.
    4. Regarding transferring points to another loyalty partner, I am not sure, as I have yet to transfer points, but I remember reading something about it recently, so will try yo dig up that thread.

  24. Robert Hanson said,

    T/C says booked at a “qualifying rate”. Anyone have any info on what a qualifying rate is? The example they use of what rates are available is for the “best available” rate. I’m wondering if prepaid and/or AAA and senior rates count…

  25. CCHuang said,

    don’t forget combine with Freedom 5x rebate

  26. Nate said,

    So I’ve found a hotel that has a slightly higher rate than what Gary posted above but it also says I cancel up to the day of check-in with no penalty. Seems like it’s worth the premium to be able to cancel if this promotion doesn’t pan out…

    That being said, I’d hate to ‘overpay’ for a room if this is basically guaranteed.

    What do people think?

  27. Chas said,

    Anyone else having problems registering? Trying create accounts for family members and the “register now” button doesnt seem to be working for me (in 2 different browsers)…

  28. JackW said,


    You’ve mentioned that the it transferres by the 8000 point packages. Any way to easily top off the 55k+ to the required 56ooo to simplify the transfer?

  29. redcat255 said,

    I have a LifeMiles hangover from the weekend and am a little concerned about this… I hope we don’t bring the whole thing down.

  30. purplnurpl said,

    @Nate: Take a risk. You’re probably way ahead of the game as it is, if you’ve been in this community for any amount of time.

  31. the #hustle blog said,

    I’ll give this one a whirl. Booked the Nebraska location for tomorrow night. Thanks Gary & DWL!

  32. Nate said,

    Booked 3 rooms. All spread out a few weeks. Earliest night I could book @50.99 price was 10/25. Last two reservations are on AA rate and refundable if first one doesn’t pan out.

    Tempted to sign up my friends and family but until proof this posts don’t want to expend futile effort.

  33. ed said,

    Data Point. I booked just one no-show for $56 on September 27. I have not called in yet, but I was not awarded points. A friend was for a different property was after he went through the hassle of calling in, etc.

  34. Glenn said,

    Okay, well three nights booked at one of the above that isn’t Orlando. We’ll see if it posts.

  35. Jeff said,

    If you book a room at the Hawthorn Suites by Wyndham Orlando Altamonte Springs with dates that are a little closer in, then the rates are even lower than Gary mentions. I booked three 1-night stays for about two weeks from now and it was $158.49 all-in, instead of $169.80 (which is the total for 3 nights a little further out in Nov. and Dec.). Less than three-quarters of a cent per airline mile is pretty sweet.

  36. ArizonaGuy said,

    Guess what people. STOP BOOKING TODAY. Use your brains. You have over two months to do this. If you all hit Florida, is it any wonder the property is canceling these reservations?

  37. Mileswhore said,

    Do you think it’s best to set it at earn mileage? It looks like for the Fall promotion, it would be 1,000 miles for the second and third stays………….That’s 2,000 miles as opposed to 11,000 Wyndham points. I’m bad at math here, somewhere help me out………..

  38. Adam K said,

    November 26 Gary, for the Fall promotion, not Nov 30.

  39. redcat255 said,

    @ArizonaGuy I’m shocked the place hasn’t sold out yet…

  40. Jeff said,

    @Mileshore, at a 2.5:1 conversion rate from Wyndham points to miles, you get 4400 miles from the 11,000 Wyndham points, rather than 2000 miles directly. Also, this fall promo gives the bonus points on the 2nd and 4th stays, but apparently not the 3rd stay.

    Re Orlando canceling reservations, I booked the prepaid rate for a couple of weeks from now. If those get canceled, I’ll have plenty of time to rebook elsewhere. It’s worth the risk for the lower rate.

  41. Sam said,

    There are cashback rebates from Big Crumbs & Coupon Cactus. Not much, but adds up.

  42. Mileswhore said,


    I stand corrected, if I would have read it more carefully, I would have seen I would need a 4th stay, which isn’t going to happen. I assume, for this promotion, leave it on earn Wyndham points?

  43. Sam said,

    And for those wondering if your Wyndham points can be transferred to a different person’s FF account, I can confirm that you can. I successfully did this to get a hit during last year’s GS promo.

  44. Jon said,

    Also….2.1% cash back via bigcrumbs; 5 UR points per dollar on hotel spend with the Chase Freedom card.

    There shouldn’t be much risk of your reservation being canceled/refunded if you book the pre-paid/nonrefundable rate (just hang onto a copy of the current Wyndham Rewards terms & conditions in case they change it later).

  45. Jon said,

    And if anyone wants to earn 1,000 extra points to reach the 56K mark, you can book the “Best Available Rate + 1,000 Bonus Points” rate (see https://www.wyndhamrewards.com/trec/consumer/promoReg.action?promoRuleCode=POPTINSPR2012&vanityUrl=1000&variant=us ).

  46. Kelly said,

    Ok.. I am in. Not for the airline miles..but because we already know we want to stay at the Koloa Landing in Kauai next year again. It is 30K points per night….or $300 per night to book the condo after rate and taxes. Booked my first night in Utah for $63.74. If this works and I get the points I will book another. That will be $127 investment on a $300 room we had already planned on staying in. Last year I was lucky enough to buy the points using Daily Getaway. Not sure if I will be that lucky again! Sure hope I get the points otherwise I just wasted $64!!!

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  48. Mariana said,

    I did this promotion last time and earned 48k wyndham points that I promptly transferred to United for a total of 19,200 united miles. I paid between $55 and $65 per hotel stay (though they were no shows). The FL hotel required emails and phone calls in order to get the points (though they did charge my credit card). It took about 4 to 6 weeks for the points to post. Remember, though, that you can transfer points in chunks of 8k so even if you sign up for a few promotions, you would only be able to transfer them in multiples of 8

  49. Chaim said,

    The big question is whether AAA rate and best available +1000 rate are qualifying rates…

  50. Sam said,

    55000 points would also transfer to $250 in gift cards, in case you want to cash out

  51. redcat255 said,

    @Mariana — Did you get points for the stay itself initially, or did that too require a call/e-mail?

  52. flood said,

    @Chas were you able to register? I’m having the same issues as you with the “Register Now” button…

  53. Pratik said,

    Is there any upper limit on how many stays will earn the 16,000 bonus points ?


  54. Jason said,

    I may just book the local (Raleigh) one, go check in and then check out on day 4 to avoid any roadblocks. Sweet!

  55. Gary said,

    @Pratik – 3 per account

  56. Robert said,

    If I perform a no show, is it possible or them to charge and not give me the points?

  57. Chaim said,

    @jason– be careful– DO NOT book 3 nights at the same time–this will only count as one stay

  58. James said,

    Re: “That’s 55,030 Wyndham Rewards points earned earned (and doesn’t factor that you will earn miles for your credit card spend).

    And Wyndham Rewards points transfer at 2.5 to 1 airline mile (minimum of 8000 Wyndham points to transfer).”

    Is it 8k minimum or 8k increments? My understanding is that you can redeem 48k, 56k, but nothing in between, which nullifies the bonus from the Fall promo unless you cross 56k. Anyone with knowledge of the matter? I can’t see the redemption rates as my balance is 0.

  59. CCHuang said,

    @James – you can just try to redeemed, it is redeemed in 8k, 12k, 30k point levels

  60. pbailey19 said,

    Something to consider: if you intend to transfer the points to US Airways Dividend Miles, it might be worth waiting to see if US Airways runs another 50% bonus on points transferred from hotel programs. This deal would be even sweeter if it generated 33,000 miles.

  61. nikdro said,

    Do you just have to book through the link? Or do you have to have received an email?

  62. Chas said,


    I was able to do it eventually by clearing my browser cache, disabling add-ons like Adblock and Disconnect, then clicking “register now” with all the fields empty, then filling in the fields and clicking register now again. That said, I have no idea which of these steps solved the problem. :)

    I successfully created an account for a family member, but I’m now getting auto-generated duplicate account emails every minute or so (guessing for every time I tried to click the register now button before, but who knows)

  63. Gary said,

    @nikdro – this one doesn’t appear targeted with an email required, that was something specific to the last one

  64. Gary said,

    And to the folks asking about stranded Wyndham points that they can’t trnasfer to miles, what I didn’t put into the calculation is the 1000 point online booking bonus per stay..

  65. Gary said,

    @Robert the terms and conditions say no shows earn points, you ask if it is POSSIBLE, sure I suppose they could violate their terms and conditions..!

  66. Brian said,

    For those of you looking for a portal to go through:

    If you go to the Ultimate Rewards portal, it offers an extra 2 UR/$ on Days Inn. You can search for a location that is on the list and then in the results, check the box to show the appropriate brand that you’re looking for.

    So, that would be a total of 7 UR/$ if you’re using the Freedom card to book these.

  67. Jivepicnic said,

    Like many of you, I took advantage of the last offer and received 48000 points. I used my Cap1 Venture Card to pay for the (no show) rooms and was able to use my Cap1 points to pay myself back for the cost. That means that I took approximately 20000 ($200 value) Cap1 points and turned them into 19200 airline miles of my choice. Not a bad way to cash in those points in my opinion!

  68. john said,

    When I received my confirmation email it states:
    Rewards Number: Not Applicable
    Used For This Transaction: Not Applicable
    Remaining Balance: Not Applicable

    should I be worried if I am going to be a no show?

  69. Olala said,

    Thank you for posting this!!!

    I see book a stay at any of the 20 participating properties at a *qualifying rate*, too.

    What does this “qualifying rate” mean?

    For Hawthorn Suites by Wyndham Denver Tech Center, there is “Stay 3, and save 30%”, which ends up to be $142.09 for 3 nights (tried Nov.1 – 4)

    Does this “stay 3, and save 30%” rate count as a qualifying rate?

    Thank you!

  70. Olala said,


    “be careful– DO NOT book 3 nights at the same time–this will only count as one stay”

    Opppps, was going to book a three-night stay…

    Thank you for stating this! I didn’t know this…

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  72. redcat255 said,

    @john My e-mail has the account number and balance listed, but when I login and review the reservation, I also see Not Applicable.

  73. James said,

    @Gary: “1000 point online booking bonus per stay..”

    I am quite unfamiliar with Wyndham so please excuse my ignorance and these two questions:
    1) Are you saying that each online booking earn 1,000 points in any case? and:
    2) is the 10x per $ applicable to any Wyndham rewards member, or is it some special offer?

    if the answer to my question 1) is yes then any 3 stay booking would earn at least 48+5.5+3 = 56.5k correct?

  74. Ann said,

    I don’t know if this will work for people who’ve already done the promotion the last time; it didn’t show up on my WR page at all, though I could get the link through here.

  75. Mariana said,

    @redcat255. I got the points for the stay for the first stay in Florida automatically but not for the second one. I called Wyndham about it and they were very nice and responded that the promo will apply. For the second ‘stay’ I just emailed them and it worked.

  76. Brant said,

    If i book the farmington hills, MI property for one night and the following night at Auburn hills, will that count as two stay or one?

  77. Carlos said,

    Great, I live 10 min from the Altamonte hotel LOL… Just booked 3 separate stays for next few weeks.

    Hope this goes through…

  78. Udia said,

    Any bonus for opening a new Wyndham account??

  79. Carlos said,

    IF it is possible, I am willing to check anyone into the hotel at Altamonte for $5 gas fee. ($15 total)

    Maybe my name must be on the reservation… not sure. And probably I can only check into one room per night…

  80. Carlos said,

    Notify me

  81. Gary said,

    @Brant different properties = 2 stays

  82. Alan said,

    the previous points didnt post… i am not sure if they will ever post. :)

  83. James said,

    @john: I am getting the same thing (‘Not Applicable’). Not sure where to apply the rewards number (I did make sure to enter it when proceeding with the booking though!)

  84. redcat255 said,

    @James Make sure you are logged in when you review the reservation on Wyndham.com. I was seeing Not Applicable before, but then I logged in and was able to see my Wyndham Rewards number and current points balance.

  85. James said,

    @redcat255 thanks.

    @GARY and All: IMPORTANT HEADSUP. The Hawthorn Suites award 5 points per PRE tax dollar, not 10. Why is this important? Because it can make the difference when crossing the 56k mark.

    My recommended approach: 3 nights will yield say 3 x 5 x 50 = 750 pts.

    Bonus points will be 48 + 5.5

    Total so far is 54,250. That means that if you need to cross the 56k your best bet is to book 1 normal stay at best rates and 2 stays with the 1,000 bonus. This will ensure you cross 56,000.

    Perhaps the post should be amended Gary? In any case thanks for bringing this to us.

  86. Gary said,

    @James yes you are correct and i have amended the post.

  87. daniel said,

    does anyone know how long it takes for points to post to your account?

    I am planning a trip at end of Nov and want to make sure the Wyndham points will be in the account by that point.


  88. ArizonaGuy said,

    @Marianna – you can transfer in 8K, 17.5K or 30K chunks. All at the same ratio. So regardless of how many points one ends up with it’s possible to get very close to transferring them all despite not having a multiple of 8.

  89. Cyclops12t said,

    Seems like if you end up with 54k, you can still redeem 3x8k+30k. Also, there is a corporate code out there 8000000066 to get 20% off. Does anyone know if this is a “qualifying” rate?

  90. James said,

    @Cylops12t and @ArizonaGuy: thanks for that, in this case it makes it much easier. Anyone will be at 54k w/ 3 stays during the fall promo no matter where they earn 5x or 10x. Total of 21,600 vs. 19,200 for the same price makes quite a difference, and one can dip under $0.80 per 100 mile that way.

  91. redcat255 said,

    So if all works out, I should see a pending charge on my card tomorrow morning for one-night room and tax? Or does it take longer than that to hit your card?

  92. Ozaer N. said,

    so are you guys doing the book now save 15% or the best rate + 1000?? Or does it matter?

  93. Gary said,

    @Ozaer – I’m doing the best rate I can find

  94. smitty06 said,

    I used the prepaid rate last time and the points posted with no problem.

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  96. Cyclops12t said,

    @smitty06: How long did it take for the points to post the last time? I know dealswelike said points posting is all over places but the more data points, the better… Thanks…

  97. smitty06 said,

    The regular points from the stay posted after 2 weeks and the bonus points posted after 3 weeks. My stay was at the Illinois-Hoffman Estates

  98. David B said,


    I think this is AARP.

  99. Yi said,

    Hi Gary,

    I just fully took advantage of the same offer which ended on Oct 6. I got the points without problems.(See Lucky’s post http://boardingarea.com/onemileatatime/2012/08/15/potentially-very-lucrative-mileage-opportunity-courtesy-of-wyndham-promotion/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+boardingarea%2Fonemileatatime+%28One+Mile+at+a+Time%29).

    I am wondering if this one is the same one as that in Lucky’s post. May be it is just with the extended promotion period? If this was the case, I may be not able to get the points again as it was up to 3 stays.

  100. Ben said,

    Hi all,

    I booked my 3 stayed at different location and got confirmation email However, it shows like this.

    Rewards Number:12XXXXXXXG
    Used For This Transaction: Not Applicable
    Remaining Balance: 500

    My Rewards number was there without any problem and I also could see my point balance. However, the category ‘Used for this transaction’ recognized as ‘Not Applicable’.

    I was not in this promo in round 1, so what it means ‘Not Applicable’ in my case? I booked with best rate, so I can cancel it if I’m not eligible with this promo. Thanks for your help!!

  101. Ozaer N. said,

    I guess using the Chase Freedom card to get 5% cash back would be good idea for this also?

  102. Ced said,

    Can anyone confirm 8000000066 still yields a valid rate? Helps keep cost low.

  103. PH said,

    @Ben: I think that “Not Applicable” means that you didn’t burn points from your account on this reservation.

  104. Matt said,

    Is it confirmed that one receives these points even when not receiving the email containing the link in this post?

  105. Ck said,

    Funny… Recall the United promo of $1k spend and 5k points changed retroactively… Imagine how many people are now doing this… Obviously not what they intended and I beleive many will have stays, policy changed, and out your money with no bonus. This is now everywhere…. Most promo’s except track it back were pulled at this point rate. The Wyndham policy of giving credits for no shows when you were inside the cancellation period is likely over. Very sad…..

  106. Mike said,

    I just had a look at the deal and as far as I can see you can also transfer Wyndham points to PAYBACK. From there you can transfer 1:1 to MILES and MORE! Might be worth mentioning!

  107. Gagan said,

    @ Gary, can’t we set the preference to earn miles instead of points? As I see it, all Hawthorne properties give only 5 points per dollar but 500 miles per stay. And we would get 1000 miles from the fall promotion making it a total of 2500 miles directly deposited in FF program. That leaved the easily redeemable chunk of bonus 48000 points to 19200 miles. Therefore, it should obviate the need to go for higher rates. And if we do get the 3000 points bonus for online booking, the 51000 is still easily redeemable in 2 packs of 17.5K and two packs of 8K! I hope my maths is correct :-)

  108. Gary said,

    @matt – receiving the email link was part of the previous promo, nothing in the terms and conditions about such things this time

  109. ClearedCustoms said,

    Perhaps I’m being dull here, but has anyone else noticed you can’t initiate an airline mileage transfer online? Perhaps it’s because I don’t have points in my account?


  110. Dennybob said,

    Heads UP!!

    At least one property, SLC, has upped their room rates for the same night by more than $10 since last night.

    If your going to play here may need to lock up all your reservations soon.

  111. Jack L said,

    @dennybob Thanks for the heads up, good catch. I had booked 2 stays, and was waiting to see those finish before doing the 3rd. But now I booked a 3rd one at the good price before prices change.

  112. A lawyer said,

    The Wyndham rep on FT said this is an extension of the old promo – which was invite only. Gary, can you get a conf. from Wyndham this is no longer the case?

  113. Kelly said,

    From my 30 minute conversation with Wyndham & a supervisor….this is STILL TARGETED!!! This webpage went out on a flyer to certain targeted individuals and is not open to everyone. I was told that if you book under this website…and your account is not coded for this promotion, then you will not receive the 16K bonus points. The rep said to me that whoever posted this (bloggers included) are doing people a great injustice because they will not get the 16K points if they were not on the email or mailing list. This website is not advertised anywhere except the flyer that went out to targeted individuals… buyer beware!

  114. Kelly said,

    @gary – I agree! Looks like they stuck a website on their mailing and put no terms and conditions. Website went viral…now what? In 6 to 8 weeks lots of people might end up calling in to fight for these points. How they handle it is yet to be seen! Hope they make it right!

  115. Gary said,

    @Kelly @A lawyer, the terms and conditions of this offer are clear — “To qualify for the “16,000 bonus Points” promotion (the “Promotion”) and earn 16,000 Wyndham Rewards® points, the member must (i) be an active member (ii) book a stay at any of the 20 participating properties at a qualifying rate between 9/12/12 and 12/31/12 and complete their hotel stays by 1/3/13 (the “Promotion Period”). ”

    There is nothing in the terms and conditions about being targeted.

    In fact, the opposite is true. The terms and conditions say that if you are an active member of Wyndham Rewards and book astay at one of the 20 properties on a qualifying rate during the promotion period and complete that stay by January 3 then you will earn the points. Period.

  116. Pam said,

    The last time, Wyndham said it was a targeted promotion.
    Am wondering if it’s the same this time and we may end up losing $165+ and not get any pts to show for it?

  117. Kelly said,

    Official word from Wyndham rep on Flyertalk:

    Sorry for the confusion everyone. To clarify there were 2 parts to this promotion.

    First part were for members who were targeted through email and the dates for that part were August 6, 2012 to October 6, 2012 and completed by October 9, 2012.

    Second part is for member’s who were targeted through direct mail. Dates for this part are 9/12/12 to 12/31/12 and completed by 1/3/13.

    To qualify you need to have been sent the direct mailer and book through the link provided. If you were not sent the direct mailer and you book through the link you will not receive the points for the promotion.

    The second part of this promotion is not an extension of the first so if you had received the email and had not completed your stay you are not able to take part in the second part of the promotion unless you had also received the direct mail offer.

    Hope this clears up any confusion.

  118. Ben said,

    It means, second part is also targeted, right??@@

  119. Pam said,

    Please ignore – I got my response. But the cheapest rate I am seeing is $70/night. Any suggestions?

  120. Pam said,

    @Ben – looks like it. I don’t want to take a chance so opting out. They were clear last time on flyertalk (in september) that these promotions are always targeted.

  121. Ozaer N. said,

    @Gary: time to insert UPDATE 3: Targeted offer??? hehehe

  122. A lawyer said,

    In light of Wyndham’s reps response, I think you would do your readers who booked stays, including two of mine that are no longer refundable, to reach out to Wyndham on this one.

    I booked several stays based on this posting, and now they are saying it is specifically for targeted people. I know what the terms and conditions say. But what recourse do we have?

  123. Gary said,

    @A lawyer – working on it…

  124. Gary said,

    Trying to find someone below the level of Robin Korman or Mike Mueller to reach out to there and so ar just finding folks who manage the website.

  125. BigRedBears said,

    A manager from one of the properties said that points will post regardless if you check in or not… but this is getting interesting.

  126. Ozaer N. said,

    @BigRedBears: points posting is fine–but the real ‘white meat portion’ of this deal is the bonus points–which personally I am after. Thats what we need verification on.

  127. Gary said,

    In the meantime I’ve put up a new post about where this stands.

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  129. Kelly said,

    @gary: I did another call and rep said this one is not targeted. Asked for a supervisor. This supervisor stated that although they did not intend for this to be open to everyone, something happened “behind the scenes” and now it is open to anyone who books through the link on the website. I even had the supervisor note my account since I was given so many different answers…including a private message I just received from the Wyndham rep on Flyertalk saying it was targeted!! I hope they get on the same page soon! But at least for now my account is noted so that makes me feel a little better! Also, FYI they call this promotion the “Revere” promo internally…

  130. Guberif said,

    Made my 3 (refundable) bookings a few weeks out. Gives everyone some time to sort this out. If it’s a no-go, I’ll just cancel, but wanted to have the bookings now in case they change the T&Cs.

  131. Mr. N said,

    If this is targeted:

    I am wondering there is a way to check if one’s account is targeted. Since we are moving to a new location, we might have lost some postmails. Thanks

  132. James said,

    Called Wyndham Rewards also. Last night and today. Both times thy said as long as I clicked ‘the link’ or ‘the website’ then I will get the 16k.

    I think the site (landing page) is not accessible to the general public and my guess is that’s how they track it only.

    I booked 1 prepaid before that and will stay put until we find out more but my guess is that it will work, but may require more phone calls (esp. given no shows) and patience (8 wk)

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    I don’t understand the transfer restrictions. Why can’t you maximize your transfer with the 54,265 (765 base points + 48,000 from the big bonus + 5,500 from the small bonus). Can’t you transfer 30k once, then 8k three different times to get to 54k? Why pay the extra money to get to 55,500?

  135. Pam said,

    Thanks for posting this Gary, bet you didn’t expect this much confusion
    I spoke to a rep who said its targeted and repeated it twice. I wasn’t going to call but considering several people already did, thought I’d check it out as well.

    I actually have Wyndham points and am an old member and still was not ‘targeted’. Asked what the criteria to get the offer was and the rep did not know.

  136. Flyer708 said,

    Is there any ways I can do this on my own UA account multiple times? I have looked into this matter, and was hoping that is the case. =)
    (would be a super deal if I can top it off with 60000 miles for around $500. LOL)

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  140. Jennifer Rice said,

    This is really depressing. Should have recognized that this was not going to fly. I am now out $$ having made three non refundable reservations before Wyndham changed the offer to a targeted one. Cannot get through on the phone, guess I am not the only one who acted precipitously, have emailed customer service, but think I will be swallowing over $200.00. NOT happy>

  141. Gary said,

    Deep breath, my personal belief is that Wyndham will come through and honor this for folks involved in the deal prior to their changing the rules.

  142. Len said,

    Had my first “stay” last night at the Park City property, and my CC got charged. Two more stays this week (and three for the wife). How long do you think I should wait to see if points post before calling/emailing someone?

  143. Len said,

    Oops, Salt Lake City, that is.

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  147. Scott said,

    I finally had all of the base and bonus points from my three stays post today (12/18) after additional prodding of Wyndham on my part. It’s been nearly two full months since the date of my first “check-in”.

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